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Who is responsible for maintaining the collaboration tools for Kepler development? Is it the Build and Release team? I will assume so for now.
By collaboration tools I mean the Plone site, the forums, etc.
I'm having trouble using the bulleted list feature when editing pages via Plone. I'm using Firefox 2.0.0.16 on OS X 10.4.11.
The first list item in a bulleted list looks fine, but things get weird when I try to create a second bullet. Does this work intuitively for the rest of you?
The plone site is starting to look good, but it is awfully slow. Are there plans to migrate this to a faster machine, or improve performance? I know this is not easy in plone, but I remember there being various ways to optimize performance.
Shawn
The format of the forum message I just posted to the Framework team forum somehow got mangled (second message at https://dev.kepler-project.org/developers/keper-development-forum/framework-team/40940092).
Any idea what's going on?
I'd like to add two people to the Build & Release team: me and Sean Riddle. Can Sean have write access to the team area? Thanks!
Some quick thoughts on the questions above.
1) Performance: plone is in a partial development mode -- we can try to make it faster
2) Bullet lists: I haven't had trouble. We can ask Shaun if this is a common issue
3) The plone site itself could either be a product of the Build and Release team (as a collaboration tool), or the User representation team (as an outreach product). It really spans those two groups.
4) I'll add Tim and Sean to the group.
I agree. We're currently doing no caching whatsoever, so all content is being served directly by Zope. We can add RAM caches as a short term fix, but in the next few weeks I'd like to used either Varnish or Memcached to cache the static pieces of the pages and dramatically improve performance.
If you have particular pages in mind which are painfully slow, let me know and I'll see what I can do.
Previously Shawn Bowers wrote:
The plone site is starting to look good, but it is awfully slow. Are there plans to migrate this to a faster machine, or improve performance? I know this is not easy in plone, but I remember there being various ways to optimize performance.
Shawn
The new Plone site design looks amazing! I had to check the URL when I first saw it this morning.
What would you all think of increasing the indenting of nested items in the navigation panel, at the expense of some horizontal screen space? The default indentation makes it hard to see at a glance what is inside what. I think if the icons for nested items were aligned with the name of the enclosing item it would be more clear.
By the way, I'm really enjoying using the new tools. Thanks for doing this!
We could try to increase it a bit without making it too wide. I also was wondering about how deep the menu should go. Right now, it drills right down to leaf items, which I find less useful as a navigation tool because it loses top level menu items when it gets too deep. What would people think about fixing it at the site root, and drilling down a maximum of 3-4 levels?
I've added the full message body to <description> element of the RSS feed, let me know if you'd like any further customizations.
Previously Timothy McPhillips wrote:
Is it possible to configure the RSS feed to send more, or possibly all, of each forum post?
It's a planned feature, but not currently implemented. The board itself doesn't have any email subscription capabilities, so we're looking at a few things which would allow for messages on other types of content as well (page updates within certain folders, et cetera).
Previously Christopher Brooks wrote:
Is there anyway to get email for each forum post?
Thank you, this is great!
Previously Shaun Walbridge wrote:
I've added the full message body to <description> element of the RSS feed, let me know if you'd like any further customizations.
Would it be possible to change the author shown on pages, and in the list of modified items, to be the name of the person who made the last change?
At the moment, the author shown seems to be the person who first created a page. So on the Modified items page it appears at the moment that Aaron made the last change to the Extension Framework Requirements, even though I made the last change.
I've added a Collection which contains all items from the site sans Ploneboard related content: https://dev.kepler-project.org/recent-changes/RSS
Let me know if it could use tweaking.
Previously Timothy McPhillips wrote:
Is there a way to get an RSS feed for the recently modified items (minus the forum posts)?
Yeah, Plone's default concept of a page is something which is 'owned' by one or more people. The quick fix is to assign ownership through the page itself: edit -> ownership -> modify the 'creator' section to change who'll show up on the page byline.
The fix you propose could be done with a bit more work, what are your thoughts Matt?
Previously Timothy McPhillips wrote:
Would it be possible to change the author shown on pages, and in the list of modified items, to be the name of the person who made the last change?
At the moment, the author shown seems to be the person who first created a page. So on the Modified items page it appears at the moment that Aaron made the last change to the Extension Framework Requirements, even though I made the last change.
This is great, thank you! It will also encourage me to comment on the changes I make, making them easier to review.
Previously Shaun Walbridge wrote:
I've added a Collection which contains all items from the site sans Ploneboard related content: https://dev.kepler-project.org/recent-changes/RSS
Does anyone have a recommendation for an RSS -> e-mail gateway that might already be available on the web (just for reading messages)?
Previously Shawn Bowers wrote:
I know this has already been mentioned, but it would be really nice if I could sign up to receive forum posts in email. I don't need to send posts via email, but would really like to receive them via email. For gmail users who don't use google reader especially, this would be really nice.
I've done some cursory searching, and came across http://www.sendmerss.com/ which seems to do the trick. If you're using GMail, I'd recommend entering in the email address as something like 'my.name+kelper-feed@gmail.com' and then using a label to filter the messages from the RSS feed as needed.
We're definitely interested in providing this directly through the site, but its something we realistically won't get to for a week or two.
Previously Timothy McPhillips wrote:
Does anyone have a recommendation for an RSS -> e-mail gateway that might already be available on the web (just for reading messages)?
Previously Shawn Bowers wrote:
I know this has already been mentioned, but it would be really nice if I could sign up to receive forum posts in email. I don't need to send posts via email, but would really like to receive them via email. For gmail users who don't use google reader especially, this would be really nice.
Thanks, Shaun. This is a good workaround while we experiment with other possible approaches that would better integrate people's email/RSS preferences into the ploneboard settings. I tried it out and it seems to work pretty well for me and get me notification of the post in my email with filters already applied. Pretty straightforward for a workaround.
Matt agreed with what you'd asked for Tim, so I've reworked the document byline to look through the revision history for the most current author, and only display the creator if no edits are present. Other pages (such as 'recent changes') may still report the creator, but I figure this probably isn't worth hunting down in every instance.
Previously Shaun Walbridge wrote:
Yeah, Plone's default concept of a page is something which is 'owned' by one or more people. The quick fix is to assign ownership through the page itself: edit -> ownership -> modify the 'creator' section to change who'll show up on the page byline.
The fix you propose could be done with a bit more work, what are your thoughts Matt?
Previously Timothy McPhillips wrote:Would it be possible to change the author shown on pages, and in the list of modified items, to be the name of the person who made the last change?
At the moment, the author shown seems to be the person who first created a page. So on the Modified items page it appears at the moment that Aaron made the last change to the Extension Framework Requirements, even though I made the last change.
Very nice! Thanks a lot!
Previously Shaun Walbridge wrote:
Matt agreed with what you'd asked for Tim, so I've reworked the document byline to look through the revision history for the most current author, and only display the creator if no edits are present. Other pages (such as 'recent changes') may still report the creator, but I figure this probably isn't worth hunting down in every instance.
What would folks think about hiding the globe and padlock symbols that currently appear next to links to sites outside the Plone system? I find them distracting, especially in the middle of paragraphs of text. Thoughts?
Hi- I'd like to add portlets/containers to the User area of the wiki to contain things like the most recent three What's New items, as well as the most recent newsletters. The newsletters are PDF files, so I was hoping to find a portlet that updated automatically when new files were added to a directory. Can you help? Thanks!
Hi Kirsten,
I've added the 3 most recent What's new items to the left hand column, and am happy to add a collection for the PDF newsletters-- just make a folder with the files and I'll take care of the rest.
cheers, Shaun
Previously Kirsten Menger-Anderson wrote:
Hi- I'd like to add portlets/containers to the User area of the wiki to contain things like the most recent three What's New items, as well as the most recent newsletters. The newsletters are PDF files, so I was hoping to find a portlet that updated automatically when new files were added to a directory. Can you help? Thanks!
Thanks, Shaun!
I created a user/newsletter directory. Right now, there is only one newsletter in it, but I'll be adding more pdf files when the newsletters are done.
Also: right now the What's new item lists the oldest three news stories. I entered the stories in reverse chronological order so that the latest would appear at the top of the folder page, and planned to drag-and-drop new additions to the top of the what's new folder so they could display there, too. Is there a better way to set this up so that the latest content will appear at the top of the screen and so that the news portlet will receive the most recent content? Thanks again for your help.
